Beth Norquist = Jean Hoffman = Joseph Robert

SPAM messages

this persons/groups latest message was sent to other Patch under the Joseph Robert name also:
http://alameda.patch.com/users/joseph-robert/comments?page=1

She/he/them are all over the Patch network.

Beth.... But Bush never blamed any of these on a video, he called them terrorist attacks from the start ............I would like to thank you for your post proving Obama was wrong pretending it was a protest to a video

With inspector lyn on the case, what could go wrong? Oh, how about that she doesn't mention how Keith Best posts from WI. Of course she only calls out out of state contributors that she does not ideologically agree with and her double standard on this, once again undermines her credibility.

Thank you Watts for helping identify. Now go back to California.
BTW, last night I did identify someone from out of state who was calling Obama a flip flopper. Just because I'm not checking everyone, doesn't mean any double standard applies. Only that one side is doing it more or more is apparent.
So, where's my apology? Oh, that's right - that's your whine.

lyn, so glad that you have found a purpose in life. BTW, I spoke one to one with a couple of editors in Ohio and they have absolutely no problem with my posting. So you can drop me from your harassment list.

It isn't a whine, it is a request for an apology that is undeniably due to me. And I did see where you called out somebody who was posting conservative spam (and that, truly was spam...somebody who posts but is not interested in actual exchange of ideas, like myself). So for concluding that you were ignoring the conservative posters in your oddly intense pursuit to objectify all people not Ohioan, I owe you an apology.

See, it isn't that hard at all to show some level of integrity. You really ought to try it some time.

Poopr Beth is STILL being the good liberal and blaming Bush for everything. His leadership did ot lead to these attacks nor did Obama's lack of leadership lead to the attacks. Obama was likely not aware of the pending attacks as he does not attend the dailiy briefings like a good president would do (Bush never missed one BTW), but he was probabaly to busy playing golf, vacationing, or campaigining which is probably still better than him playing president. Keep drinking that Kool Aid Beth.Oh yea, and hats off to the 2 Navy Seals that were killed trying to do what the White house refused to do by saving those in Benghazi . Obama LIED about it being a terrorist attack and now of course he said he was saying all along it was a terrorist attack. Wake up lady!

Phil-
And did you happen to watch any of the Sunday morning programs? The Dems on them said they weren't going to talk specifics about Benghazi until after the election, claiming its a national security issue. What?? National security will be different the day after the election? How about it might effect voter response?

Beth, those attacks were at the height of the war. And yes there were alot of people complaining about them.

But you never hear of the daily body count under Obama like you did under Bush.

Total Troop casualties under Bush in Afganistan - 575
Total Troop casualties under Obama in Afganistan - 1,428

Almost tree times as many and the mainstream media never talks about it.

So much for peace in the Middle East, Obama should give his nobel peace prize back.

God help us if he isn't re-elected!!

God help us if Obama is awarded a second rule. All that flexibility he threatened us with.

Amen Ken!

As for Lyn, I no longer live in the Falls but it is my hometown and I still care about what goes on there as I still have family living there. Just because someone is from another state and used to live there, I believe they still have a voice here. Or are you in favor of allowing the government to take that right away as well?

Phil-
The government has nothing to do with with the Patch. The Patch is a privately owned business that can set its own terms of use. And if you had read any of my previous posts, I have a problem with spam and the like, no problem with people who have a sincere interest in this area - and I have said, like those people who may have once lived here.
Free speech is not an issue in private business. Do you cry free speech in church, at work, in a store, even at public square? There are restrictions everywhere - you need permits for some things and your minister or employer has a say, just as the owners of the Patch do.

Phil- Did you happen to read my reply above to your Benghazi comment? What did you think of the Dems answer?

I suggest you do your posts completely in upper case, especially if you're going to spout your continuing torrent of lies.

With the storm barrelling down, I thought it would be worth noting this

President Barack Obama's proposal for the upcoming budget sequester would cut nearly $900 million from the Federal Emergency Management Agency, including disaster relief, food and shelter, and flood management at both the federal and state levels.

With all of this debt and spending why would Obama be proposing cuts in emergency aid? These are not cuts that will help us. Cut Big Bird!!!

Romney wants to eliminate it, so I am not sure what your point is.

Watts Obama is the one proposing to cut it. he is President right now. What is your point? Defend the undefendable and change topics? So pathetic. Obama is such an immature child.

Hey Watts, explain this quote from Obama when there was still hope in the fall of 2008

“My first priority and my first job is to get us on the path of economic recovery, to create 2.5 million jobs, to provide relief to middle-class families,” he said. But he also wanted to set up a long-term plan to reduce deficits “and make sure we’re not leaving a mountain of debt for the next generation.”

Does $16 trillion count as a mountain of debt?

You claimed that Obama was going to cut FEMA (something that you provide no proof of and I am leery to believe as you have put it), so my following post was to stay on topic of FEMA cutting and mentioned that Romney wants to eliminate it completely. And this you see as me changing the topic? Yet you then jump into economic numbers and that is all supposed to be on topic? Never mind the fact that your original post on FEMA was a reply to Nelly Z's post about Benghazi.

Are you a crack head or is your ADD really this bad? Don't expect people to take you seriously or to engage you in any serious conversation if all you do is regurgitate talk radio nonsense with the focus of a nat that had been floating in a beer.

Here you go West Coastie poster here in Ohio.....thanks for the all too classic name calling abuse from crazy Democrats who cannot stand to watch their failed President lose. Where you always this immature?

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/omb/assets/legislative_reports/stareport.pdf

Obama's proposed cuts to FEMA include the following
•Flood Hazard Mapping and Risk Analysis Program - $8 million
•State and Local Emergency Programs (non-defense) - $183 million
•State and Local Emergency Programs (defense) - $5 million
•United States Fire Administration and Training - $4 million
•Salaries and Expenses (non-defense) - $75 million
•Salaries and Expenses (defense) - $7 million
•Disaster Relief - $580 million
•Emergency Food and Shelter - $10 million
•Radiological Emergency Preparedness Program - $3 million
•National Pre-disaster Mitigation Fund - $3 million

Anything else I can do to prove you wrong, just let me know

nelly ....interesting post

I can't believe what I just read. You must believe anything that appears on the internet as long as it's against Obama! We all know that if it's on the internet it must be true. since you list yourself as a "Reds fan" can I assume that you're a Communist. Oh, wait. That's your way of thinking.

So, do you think voter suppression is okay?

Murphy-Solon,
So you are on record as distancing yourself from Michael Moore?

Pot meet kettle........

Obama "not me" or "I didn't do it"

Well who the hell has been screwing things up for 4 years then?

lyn on another melodramatic tirade. Stalking you...that is rich. The Patch people saw how all of this unfolded. I had never engaged you in any conversation at all, until you targeted me and came up with that first round of false accusations about me. And you refused to apologize for those.

At this point, the asking for an apology from you (even after I offered an apology to you when I had made a mistake), is basically a joke. It is just to remind everybody of the integrity issue that you have on here.

How is this. If you don't direct any more emails at me or write a single word about me, I will do the same. End of story, no need for a snide last word or anything else, because if you truly felt stalked, then this should be more than enough to make you happy. And likewise, you may want to lay off your false accusations against other contributors on here. The only reason you are getting heat from anybody is because you are coming out here and stating things as facts, that you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. If you just gave up this little battle that is taking place in your own mind, between you and national contributors, then you could just post about the actual issues.

Watts-
You may think melodramatic, but think of how it might have been from the point of view of maybe your wife, mother, daughter, or other loved one.
I NEVER sent you an email, as I do not know your address. And, you are the ONLY contributor I have had a problem with of this magnitude on here since I have been posting. There was never a reason for it to escalate to this point.
As I said, I had avoided acknowledging your presence on here, and hope you you will do the same, as you say you will. I hope this will end any further contact between us. Thank you.

Watts,
do you realize how creepy you are?

Sorry, first link to Romney's dodging questions in Ohio should have been this:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/10/30/mitt-romney-fema_n_2044213.html

Those 2001/2003 Bush tax cuts were to expire in 2010 and Obama extend them. On top of that, he gave the average couple the "making work pay" credit of $800 in 2009 and 2010, and lowered the FICA deduction 2% in 2011 and 2012 giving the average family $1000 each year. That's the $3600 Obama boasts of. Not only did he extend Bushs, he added to them with those AND others for other people making less - they get money BACK having kids if they make a lower income. This is how almost 50% Americans pay no federal income tax. Is that right that the other 50% should when we all live in this country? Shouldn't everyone contribute something, the wealthy the most and the poor the least? But, instead, we give people money over and above what they have paid, withheld or owe - i.e., if they owe NOTHING, they can still get thousands back from the government in a refund check. Nice, huh?

Another problem is, that 2% reduction means now Social Security is funded less, because THAT is the source of funding SS. So, what do they do? The government makes that up from the general fund - and the debt then goes up. What sense does that make? And what happens when they don't extend this reduction? People will look at it like a tax increase, which it is not.

Beth-
All I'm hearing are crickets.
Just as I thought. You can only cut and paste, and spit out what someone spoon feeds you. Not able to process any info on your own.
Too bad YOU can't discuss with me how that $3600 was spread over the last 4 years and Obama liked the Bush tax cuts so much that he extended them - and added to them. Now all that ends in 2012?

Maybe you are better versed in TARP and the role Bush and Obama had in it. Lets discuss the current status, the loss to the government from monies put towards GM and Chrysler.

Beth-
Still crickets? I know you are on here, as your alter personality, Joseph, has been on here from 8:08 to 10:00. Are you researching the topic? You are the one who accused me of not wanting to talk to someone outside of a 5 mile radius. Lets have a real debate on some issues. Maybe we might agree on some things, since facts are facts.

I wonder if Coulter actually believes that anyone would actually click on these ridiculous right wing websites.

Chris Christie on Fox was asked if he would tour New Jersey with Romney and he declined.

If someone really wants to participate on here from England, I don't care. But, not if its to spread spam or propaganda. This is a local forum where locals or those with an interest in the area should be talking about issues. Otherwise, why should someone from Florida or California be on here when there are plenty of people to discuss national issues with in their own states. We all know its to try and influence our votes. After all, why did most of us come to the Patch - to come and discuss with our neighbors. Otherwise, we would go to a national site.

SPAMMERS dig up the truth about the myth of fluffy bunnies
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcxKIJTb3Hg

HAHA thats my favorite clip of all time

would you be talking about George Soros
"The financier George Soros is expected to contribute $1 million each ... to spend $300 million on the presidential, House and Senate elections."

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/08/us/politics/liberals-putting-super-pac-money-into-grass-roots.html

Tom nice comment!! and the link out of a liberal newspaper was a nice touch

Alan too late it was called benghazi

Jean - How much food did you donate to the Dayton "relief event". Also, 4 years of not doing what was promised ---- well ---- is that not a lie? Come on........let's call it what it is ........ someone did tell a non-truth about a lot of things since 2008 and they are also cutting either 90mil or 90bil from FEMA and a whole lot of money from Medicare. Enough said......